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没有阿波罗11号 SpaceX可能不会存在

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没有阿波罗11号 SpaceX可能不会存在

亚博游戏7yue20rixiaoxi,《shidai》zazhiziyoubianjijiantaikongjizhejiefuli·keluge(jeffrey kluger)zaispacexweiyujiazhoudezongbuyuailong·masike(elon musk)jinxingleyicijiaotan。tamentaolunlemasikechuangbanspacexdeyuanyin,taduixindengyuejingsaizhonggezhongtiaozhanzhedekanfa,yijitaduirenleitaikonglvxingqianjingdeyuce。

以下是经过部分编辑的翻译内容:

《时代》: 历史通常是生活在其中的人最能真切感受到的。你在阿波罗11号登月两年后出生。然而,太空探索却似乎是你骨子里的东西。

masike: worenwei,aboluo11haoshirenleilishishangzuiguwurenxindeshiqingzhiyi,yexukeyiqudiao“zhiyi”。tashilishishangzuinengzaofuzheigeshijiedehaoshizhiyi。tajidiqiurenmindailaideguwushinanyizhixinde。taqueshijililewo。ruguomeiyouaboluo11hao,wobuquedingspacexhuibuhuicunzai。

woguoquyizhiqidaizhewomennengzaiaboluo11haozhihoujixuqianjin,womenhuizaiyueqiushangjianlijidi,huibarensongdaohuoxing,kenengjiangrenleisongshangmuxingdeweixing。worenwei,ruguonizai1969nianwenbieren,tamendaduoshukenengdouyouzheiyangdeqidai。xianzaiwomenlaidao2019nianle。shijishang,meiguoshenzhimeiyounenglibarensongdaojindiguidao。

suoyinianfuyinian,woyizhiqidaizhewomennenggouchaoyueaboluo,danwomenmeinengzuodao。zheirangwoduiweilaigandaobeishang。woxiang,kenenghenduorendouxiangyaoyouyizhongweilaihuibiguoqugenghaodeganjue,zhishaowoshizheimexiangde。ruguonimeiyouzheizhongganjue,nihuifenshijisu,huiduiweilaigandaobeiguan。

《时代》: 许多热爱太空的人也感受过同样的绝望和失望。我也是其中一个,但我没有像你一样建立一家太空公司,而你做到了。那么是什么让你认为,“是的,这是必须要做的,我是那个有能耐的人,或者至少是其中一个有能耐的人”?

亚博游戏masike: woyiqianbingburenweiwoyouneiyangdenengnai。woyiqianjuedespacexyou90%dekenenghuishibai。wochuanglizheijiagongsidechuzhongshi,woyaozuoyigejiaozuo“huoxinglvzhou”(mars oasis)decishanrenwu,bayigexiaowenshijiangluozaihuoxingbiaomian,limiandezhongzifangzaituoshuideyingyangningjiaoli,zheluhouhuixingchengshuihewu,ranhoujiunengpaixiayizhangbukesiyideyihongsehuanjingweibeijingdelvsezhiwuzhaopian。wodemubiaojiushiranggongzhonggandaoxingfen,ranhourangguohuigandaoxingfen,zheiyangtamenjiuhuibochugengduodeqian,zengjianasadeyusuan。wodangchuxiangyaodongyongwocongpaypalzhuandaodeyibandeqian,danzheibiqianzuizhonghaishihuixiaoshidaijin——weilezengjianasadeyusuan,womenjiudequhuoxing。

《时代》: 让一家私营的太空任务和火箭公司起步并不容易。你是怎么开始的呢?

masike: woquguoeluosijici,yinweiwomaibuqimeiguodehuojian,tamentaiguile。eluosidangshizhengzaichaichuyixiliedezhoujidandaodaodan。suoyizai2001nianhe2002nianchu,woqianwangeluosi,shitugoumaiyixietuiyidezhoujidandaodaodan,zheitingqilaihenfengkuang,dannizhidao,tamenwulunruhedouhuibatamenrengdiao。danshitamenyizhijiwozhangjia。

亚博游戏woyerenshidao,jishiwomenrangnasadeyusuanfanleyibei,chufeitayouhenhaodehuojianchengbaoshang,burantamenhaishihuiwufaqudejinzhan,”yinweizhihuichuxiangengduobukezhongfushiyongdehuojian,womenyehuimianlinzhezhinengzaihuoxingshangliuxiaqizhihejiaoyindefengxian,suiranzheirengbibuquneilihao,danhaishiburuzaihuoxingshangjianlijidi,zaiyueqiushangjianlijidi,bingzuizhongzaihuoxingshangxingchengyigekezijizizudechengshi。suoyiwojiuxiang,‘haoba,woyaoshizhezaizheilijianliyijiahuojiangongsi’。

亚博游戏wodangchujuedezheijiagongsihuishibai。shishishang,gangkaishiwobuhuirangrenherentouzizheijiagongsi。zheibushiyinweiworenweitahuiyouhenhaodefazhan,ershiyinweiworenweitahuishibai。

《时代》: 如果2019年的埃隆·马斯克能和沃纳·冯布劳恩(Wernher Von Braun)、克里斯·克拉夫特(Chris Craft)、吉恩·克兰茨(Gene Kranz)以及20世纪60年代的所有英雄人物交谈——如果你能给他们一条建议,不管是技术上的、精神上的、销售技巧上的,还是长远的眼光上的,你会给他们什么建议?

masike: wona·fengbulaoenhenqingchuzijizaizuoshenme。tadejihuashiyaboyouxikezhongfuliyongdehuojian。danneixiejihuashoudaolezuai。buguanzenmeyang,nidoudeshixianhuojiandekezhongyongxing。huojianjintiandeyunzuofangshitaifengkuangle。tajiuxiangruguoniyouyijiafeiji,nidaodamudedidefangshishinidaizhejiangluosancongchengshishangkongtiaosan,ranhourangnidefeijizhuihuizaimougedifang。zheijiushihuojianrujindeyunzuofangshi——lieying9hao(falcon 9)chuwai。zheitaifengkuangle。

weileshidewomenrenleichengweiyigeduoxingqiuwuzhong,womenbixudejiejuehuojiandewanquankezhongyongxingwenti。jiuhaoxiangzaiguoqu,chuanzhibunengzhongfushiyongyiyang。yuanyanghangxingdechengbenhuibiandefeichanggaoang。nihaixuyaoyoudiersouchuangenzheniwanchengfancheng。huozhenikeyixiangxiangruguofeijibunengzhongfushiyong,meiyourenhuiquzuofeiji,yinweifeijizaojiajiyimeiyuan。

yinci,zheijiushiweishenmehuojianchongfenerkuaisudekezhongyongxingshijinrutaikongde“shengbei”,yeshimaixiangtaikongdejibenbuzhou——meiyouta,womenjiubunengchengweiduoxingqiuwuzhong。ruguohuojianmeiyouchongfenerkuaisudekezhongyongxing,womenjiubukenengzaiyueqiushangjianlijidi,yebukenengzaihuoxingshangjianlichengshi。zheijiushiweishenmewomenzaispacexyizhizaiweihuojiandekezhongyongxingernuli。

《时代》: 有些人认为应该将同样的偏执——SpaceX向其工作倾注的那种专注和创造力——用于开发一个真正可再生、真正清洁的电网。这样拯救物种的连锁反应会更容易在短期内显现。你有没有想过这个呢?

亚博游戏masike: worenwei,tesilazaimaixiangkechixunengyuanjingjifangmianyijingqudelejudadejinzhan。wojuede,zaijiaotongchuxinggongjudiandonghuashang,tesilakeyishuoshijiangkechixujiaotongdehexindeshixiantiqianle10nian,yexushenzhitiqianle20nian。zheixiezhishidajihuazhongdexiaochengjiu。dantamenqueshihenzhongyao。

亚博游戏ruguowoquanshenxintourudaotesilashang,erbushizaispacexhetesilazhijianfenpeishijian,womendezengzhangsuduhuikuaiduoshaoni?worenweibianjijiazhishixiangduiyouxiande。woningyuantesiladefazhanmanjinianshijian,jianguspacexrangtarengjiucunzai,yinweiworenweizheishiyigepinghengdian,ketuidonggengweidadeshiye。

亚博游戏woxiwangyoumouzhongfangfabuyongranshaodongxijiunengfashehuojian。danshimeiyou。woshishuoniudundisandinglv,meiyoubanfaraoguozheigedinglv。

《时代》: 现在很多人都想知道,我们什么时候才能开始看到普通的宇航员乘坐载人龙飞船(Crew Dragon)飞往国际空间站?

masike: zheiyaokannasahespacexdezhunbeichengdu。congspacexzhunbeichengdudejiaodulaikan,wocaiwomendagaihaiyou6geyuedeshijianjiunengzuodaoneiyidian。danwulunmuqianderichenganpairuhe,zheidouyoudianxiangzhinuobeilun。suoyiruguowomenxianzaiderichenganpaishi4geyue,neime8geyuezuoyoukenengcaishizhengquedeyugu。

《时代》: 你觉得下一次月球上出现鞋印会是什么时候呢?

亚博游戏masike: zheitingqilaihenfengkuang,danworenweiwomenkenenghuizaibudaoliangniandeshijianlidengshangyueqiu。dangran,woxiangxinfeizairenfeichuankenenghuizailiangnianneidengshangyueqiu。suoyiyexuzaiyiliangniannei,dingduo4nian,womenjiunengzairenfashe。

《时代》: 你说的“我们”是指美国还是SpaceX呢?

亚博游戏masike: wobuqueding。ruguobiqishijiquzuozheijianshiqing,yaohuagengzhangdeshijianlaishuofunasahedangjuwomenkeyizuodao,neimewomenyexuzhijiequzuohaole。shijishang,rangxingjifeichuan(starship)dengluyueqiukenengbishuofunasaxiangxinwomennengzuodaoyaorongyideduo。

实际上,让星际飞船登陆月球可能比说服NASA相信我们能做到要容易得多。

henxianran,zheibushiwonenggoujuedingde。danshiyaoshuofunasazhongduochihuaiyitaidudegongchengshiwomennengchenggong,womenxuyaofuchujudadenuli。zheikebushisuibianshuoshuo,yinweitamenhuishuo,“e,deleba。zheizenmekenengni?”tamenzongshichihuaiyitaidu……nizhidao,tamenyouchongfendeliyou。danshizhongjiehuaiyizhuyideweiyifangfajiushijinguanquzuo。

《时代》: 你手头上已经有猎鹰火箭和龙飞船,但你没有说“让我们在三年内登陆月球”,而是你向前走出了更有野心的一步,即开发并采用Super Heavy助推器和星际飞船。为什么这样做呢?为什么不说“我们现在可以出发了?”

亚博游戏masike: worenweiwomenkeyizhongxinzuoyiciaboluo11haoderenwuyijiyixiexiaorenwu——rangrenleizhongfanyueqiu。danshizheizhongfuzhijuebuhuiyouyuanbanneimemeihao。

亚博游戏womenzhendexiangyaoyouyigenenggoubazugoudeyouxiaozaihesongdaoyueqiuhuohuoxingdefeixingqi,zheiyangwomenjiunengyouyigewanzhengdeyueqiujidi。yougenengyongjiuzhuzhazaiyueqiudejidishibukesiyide,jiuxiangwomenzainanjizhouyouyongjiudejidi,erqiezaiyueqiushangjianlikexuejidijueduihuigengku。

亚博游戏zheijiushiweishenmewomenyaojinkenengkuaidijianzaoneiyangdefeixingqi。worenwei,duiyuyijiazhengzaikaifajishudegongsilaishuo,jinkuairangzijidechanpinbiandeduoyushigehaozhuyi。zheiyoudianlingrenbuan,bijingwomenzailieying9hao、lieyingzhongxinghuojian(falcon heavy)helongfeichuan(dragon)shenshangtouruletaiduodegongzuo。danshijishang,womenyinggaizuodeshijinkuairangtamenbiandeduoyu。womenjianghuibatamenfangzaibowuguanli。

《时代》: 最终,月球上会有脚印,火星上会有脚印。有朝一日你的脚印会出现在月球和火星吗?

亚博游戏masike: woxiangquyueqiuhehuoxing。woxiangneihuihenyouqu。danwoxuyaoquebao,zheilideshouyaomubiaoshirangshengmingduoxingqiuhua。zheibingbushimouzhonggerenduiyueqiuhuohuoxingdetansuo。wodezhexuejichuyudaogelasi·yadangsi(douglas adams)de《yinheximanyouzhinan》(hitchhiker’s guide to the galaxy)yizhi。tashuodeshi,“ruguoshuoyuzhoushidaan,neimewentishishenmeni?”ruguowomenkuodayishidefanweiheguimo,neimewomenjiunenggenghaodilijieyaowenxieshenmewenti。womenhuixuedaogengduo,womenhuibiandegengyoujuewu。suoyiwomenyinggaichangshizuoyixieshiqinglaikuodayishidefanweiheguimo。chengweiyigeduoxingqiudewuzhong,quebaowomendiqiushangyoukechixudeqihou,zheixieduiyuneigeguanchuanxingdezhexuelinianfeichangzhongyao。zheijiushiwosuoxinfengdezhexue。(lebang)

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